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did he not watch those debates? has he never seen mitt romney debate? >> i think that is a very good question, piers, because you would think that in talking about the preparation, you would take a look at all of the debates and actually, the one with newt gingrich is the one that i think they needed to take a look at, because that's where he eviscerated the speaker, and he did it by telling the blatant lies that newt gingrich actually talked about the next day. so he should have been prepared for those kinds of attacks. he should not have looked surprised and he should have been much more deft at not just defending his own record and talking about where we have been and what he has done to shore up the middle class and what he will continue to do, but he should have absolutely brought up the 47%, his offshoring, the fact that mitt romney does not want to come clean on his income taxes and i think that would have been a much different debate. >> i can see that crystal is jumping in there. unfortunately, you can't do it just yet. we have to have a commer
did he not watch those debates? has he never seen mitt romney debate? >> i think that is a very good question, piers, because you would think that in talking about the preparation, you would take a look at all of the debates and actually, the one with newt gingrich is the one that i think they needed to take a look at, because that's where he eviscerated the speaker, and he did it by telling the blatant lies that newt gingrich actually talked about the next day. so he should have been...
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supporters on both sides agree romney crushed in the debate but will it add up to votes? karl rove here to break it down. >>> money tonight, gas shortage in california. prices skyrocket. stations close. will it spread across the country? we have details. >>> i'm getting serious about the saving the post office. i'm the turnaround specialist who can avoid a $11 billion default. i'm offering my services to the postmaster general. he is here in a fox business exclusive. even when they say it's not you know it is always about money. melissa: first let's take a look at the market headlines. all three major indices close in the green. all 10 sectors in the s&p finished on the plus side for a fourth straight day of gains. cisco names new number two. gary moore named president and chief operating officer. ceo john chambers says he will stay in his position between two and four more years. jobless claims rose slightly this week, climbing by 4,000 to 367,000. we're all going to be watching tomorrow morning when the government releases its monthly unemployment numbers for september.
supporters on both sides agree romney crushed in the debate but will it add up to votes? karl rove here to break it down. >>> money tonight, gas shortage in california. prices skyrocket. stations close. will it spread across the country? we have details. >>> i'm getting serious about the saving the post office. i'm the turnaround specialist who can avoid a $11 billion default. i'm offering my services to the postmaster general. he is here in a fox business exclusive. even when...
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when mitt romney beat president obama in last night's televised debate. so the first televised presidential debate that we had was in 1960. here are all of the other years that we have since have televised presidential debates. every four years now we have these debates on tv. the only years, though, so these are all the years, right, right? the only years, though, in which you had an incumbent president running against a challenger in all of the years we've had presidential debates on tv are these years. so in terms of understanding the historical context of what happened last night when mitt romney beat president obama in this first debate, this is the universe of like things to compare it to. this is how to understand it in terms of american political history. it's only these years right here. that's it. now, by definition, you never have an incumbent president in this situation more than once. presidents can only serve two terms so there's only one opportunity when they carry into that debate, when they're running for re-election, they carry into that
when mitt romney beat president obama in last night's televised debate. so the first televised presidential debate that we had was in 1960. here are all of the other years that we have since have televised presidential debates. every four years now we have these debates on tv. the only years, though, so these are all the years, right, right? the only years, though, in which you had an incumbent president running against a challenger in all of the years we've had presidential debates on tv are...
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> obama came off even worse in his debate with romney last night than he did in his debate with clint eastwood. >> by the time michelle gets finished with him last night and this morning... [chuckles] -- you can get your life, obama is not going to sleep at the wheel again. >> you had no record to run on, it's very difficult for the incumbent to come out and combat with governor romney. mitt romney hit a knockout last night. >> what the people saw last night was the real mitt romney, contrast that with a president that seemed -- not seem audio that was uninformed, detached and demonstrated that he had been lazy and disengaged. >> he is president of the united states. just what the hell does he have to prep? what the hell is going on that he doesn't know about? that he has to cram and learn? >> everything that came across in the debate left us with this ending, that the person who looked most presidential, most informed on the economy and the strongest coming out of last night was mitt romney, not our very own president. >> he was distracted. he was not -- he was umm -- as you point ou
> obama came off even worse in his debate with romney last night than he did in his debate with clint eastwood. >> by the time michelle gets finished with him last night and this morning... [chuckles] -- you can get your life, obama is not going to sleep at the wheel again. >> you had no record to run on, it's very difficult for the incumbent to come out and combat with governor romney. mitt romney hit a knockout last night. >> what the people saw last night was the real...
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time romney and obama ever actually debated each other in fact i think it's one of the few times that both men of even appear on stage together but i just knew that i'd seen this debate before. and then you know being an old geezer it struck me last night's debate was one nine hundred eighty all over again i remember that it was reagan versus carter i've said many times that the only way that mitt romney can win the election is to lie well the same was true of ronald reagan as a center for american progress pointed out this morning mitt romney told twenty seven lies and half truths in the course of just the thirty eight minutes that he spoke during the debate last night this is really a staggering feat if you think about it but one that was easily pulled off because the moderator wasn't calling out any of the lies and frankly and tragically neither was president obama or romney also pulled it off by using the ronald reagan strategy of saying what ever it takes to win just so long as you say it since the early and with the smile take a look at how ronald reagan wide his way through the
time romney and obama ever actually debated each other in fact i think it's one of the few times that both men of even appear on stage together but i just knew that i'd seen this debate before. and then you know being an old geezer it struck me last night's debate was one nine hundred eighty all over again i remember that it was reagan versus carter i've said many times that the only way that mitt romney can win the election is to lie well the same was true of ronald reagan as a center for...
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i thought overall romney had the better of the debate. i thought he dispelled stereotypes of individualists. i thought he looked happier to be there. i thought he was certainly more aggressive. and finally i guess i would say the president missed out on a lot of opportunities to mention the 47%, to echo some of the themes the democratic ad campaigns which have been so successful. i thought on balance it was a good night for mitt romney. griewd what did you think about that, mark? >> i was amazed the 47% didn't come up. i think what we saw more than anything the rust from the president not having been in a debate, quite frankly, for four years. and i thought that mitt romney, the challenger always, with the president, gets an advantage, just by being there on the same stage and beeb at least equal. i thought that romney did quite well in making his case. he seemed comfortable. he seemed confident. he didn't seem mean spirited. i was amazed the president didn't rebut the the $716 billion charge. it's a phony charge. it's been-- i mean, it's
i thought overall romney had the better of the debate. i thought he dispelled stereotypes of individualists. i thought he looked happier to be there. i thought he was certainly more aggressive. and finally i guess i would say the president missed out on a lot of opportunities to mention the 47%, to echo some of the themes the democratic ad campaigns which have been so successful. i thought on balance it was a good night for mitt romney. griewd what did you think about that, mark? >> i was...
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romney's challenge now is to prove that was the real mitt romney we saw at the debates. the confident asserttive romney we saw during the debate is not the romney we have grown used to over the last couple of months. romney has since stood by his 47% statement but now he is rolling it back. here is what he said yesterday. >> it's completely wrong. and i absolutely believe, however, that my life has shown they care about 100%. >> you might think that this new romney is nothing but an act. if you do, you are not alone. here is what the president had to say to a crowd of 30,000 people yesterday in madison, wisconsin. >> i met this very spirited fellow who claims to be mitt romney. but i know it couldn't have been mitt romney because the real mitt romney has been running around the country this past year promising $5 trillion tax cuts for the wealthiest americans. >> romney is rolling out new campaign ads as well as new talking points over the next few days and weeks. his goal is to convince the american public that he is ready to be president. more coming up live after the
romney's challenge now is to prove that was the real mitt romney we saw at the debates. the confident asserttive romney we saw during the debate is not the romney we have grown used to over the last couple of months. romney has since stood by his 47% statement but now he is rolling it back. here is what he said yesterday. >> it's completely wrong. and i absolutely believe, however, that my life has shown they care about 100%. >> you might think that this new romney is nothing but an...
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romney's. a debate is debate. if obama had done much better than romney, ron and i would be arguing something very difficult than what we're arguing today. we have a month left. early voting in places like iowa started last week well before this debate. obama, i fully suspect will not allow himself to be had the way he was had at last debate going forward. jon: i wonder how many foals would like the mail-in ballots back. >> i don't know about that. we'll see. jon: already a fait accompli. is it going to depend on these last two debates? romney has momentum but it could all fall flat if things turnaround in the debates next time? >> romney has to keep the trajectory going by doing very well in the debates. clearly he is prepared. he is continuing to, work on these things and he is going to, i think he is going to do very well against obama in these debates. he has a big foreign policy speech coming up this monday. the next debate will be foreign policy which obama is very weak on especially with, the crisis in the
romney's. a debate is debate. if obama had done much better than romney, ron and i would be arguing something very difficult than what we're arguing today. we have a month left. early voting in places like iowa started last week well before this debate. obama, i fully suspect will not allow himself to be had the way he was had at last debate going forward. jon: i wonder how many foals would like the mail-in ballots back. >> i don't know about that. we'll see. jon: already a fait accompli....
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have a couple more good debates, those all go in the romney column. that was a freudian slip. but at the end of the day, though, the question is committee make up the big difference in ohio? can he make up the big difference in wisconsin? because if he doesn't win ohio, he's got to win wisconsin. the romney people still think he can. after that debate and after barack obama's performance, which was staggeringly bad. >> all right. >> no, i mean it. >> he's right. >> okay. >> i'm hearing this from democrats. and this broke through. we always hear about how americans aren't paying attention. they're looking at reality shows. this broke through, everybody was talking about it, not just how well romney did but how badly the president performed. >> well, just as i think it was premature to declare the race over before, i think it's too soon to say that that performance, as widely watched as it was, is going to move numbers. we have yet to see any numbers move. i think they probably will some. and i think that on the other hand, did governor romney win the d
have a couple more good debates, those all go in the romney column. that was a freudian slip. but at the end of the day, though, the question is committee make up the big difference in ohio? can he make up the big difference in wisconsin? because if he doesn't win ohio, he's got to win wisconsin. the romney people still think he can. after that debate and after barack obama's performance, which was staggeringly bad. >> all right. >> no, i mean it. >> he's right. >> okay....
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i think you will see a bump in the polls for romney. 67% believed that romney won the debate. that is a stunning number. usually, our side thinks our guy one and their side thinks there got one. -- thinks their guy won. it was pretty decisive. >> explain to a group of people -- i doubt there is an undecided voter in this room. what do undecided voters look like? >> the kind of people who tell the waiter to come back at a restaurant because they have not made up their mind. [laughter] when you look at undecided voters, they generally tend to be younger women than anything else. in this case, i am seeing an even division between men and women. they tend to be more independent. they are either somewhat conservative to moderate. only 18% of the undecided voters in the swing states say the country is going in the right direction. 70% say it is on the wrong track. that is much more negative than the country as a whole. that is why i believe romney is poised to pick up some of them. >> anybody who thinks the next debate will be the same as this one, i think they are making a mistake.
i think you will see a bump in the polls for romney. 67% believed that romney won the debate. that is a stunning number. usually, our side thinks our guy one and their side thinks there got one. -- thinks their guy won. it was pretty decisive. >> explain to a group of people -- i doubt there is an undecided voter in this room. what do undecided voters look like? >> the kind of people who tell the waiter to come back at a restaurant because they have not made up their mind....